山陽電鉄「寄声やいつもの席じゃないと発狂したりセルフ車掌いますが知的障碍者ですので放置ください」

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1 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:19:03.17 ID:I/0J7VXX0

「電車内で奇声をあげる男性にぶつかられて…」 山陽電車を動かした一件の相談

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電車内で大声を出したり、ぶつぶつと独り言をつぶやいたり、うろうろと歩き続けたりする人に遭遇した経験はないだろうか。そういった行動の背景には、知的障害による特性が考えられる。山陽電気鉄道株式会社(山陽電車)が、それらの行為に理解を求める啓発ポスターを製作し、反響を呼んでいる。

【写真6枚】「電車内でぶつぶつ独り言を言うのはなぜ?」知的障害によって取りやすい5つの行動とその理由が書かれたポスター

電車内で大声を出すのはなぜか
 兵庫県南部の瀬戸内海に沿って姫路と神戸をつないで走る山陽電車は、2021年6月から「私のこと知って下さい」と題したポスターを全49駅や各車両、系列のバス車内などに掲示している。

 ポスターでは知的障害がある人が電車内で取りやすい5つの行動を挙げ、その背景にどのような理由があるのかが書かれている。

《「おおごえ」…不安などで、聴覚が過敏になって耳をふさいだり自分の声で落ち着こうとしていることもあります。》

《「うろうろ」…不安で飛びはねたり気持ちが落ち着かないとき歩き回って平静を保とうとすることもあります。》

《「いつもの場所」…気に入った場所だと安心します。》

《「ぶつぶつ」…嬉しくて独り言で趣味の世界を楽しんだり出来事を繰り返し思い浮かべ気持ちの整理をしていることもあります。》

《「あつめる」…コレクションのようにチラシ等を集めることにこだわる人もいます。》

 このポスターを作るきっかけとなったのは、乗客同士のトラブルだった。

「2018年の夏頃、車内で障害のある男性の体が女性客に当たったことがありました。後日、女性のご家族から『奇声を上げた男性にぶつかられて怖い思いをした。迷惑行為である』と山陽姫路駅に申し出がありました。ですが、トラブルがあった当日ではなかったので、駅としてもどうしようもありませんでした」(山陽電車鉄道営業部の担当者、以下同)

 その数日後、今度は障害のある男性の家族が姫路駅を訪れた。「知的障害があって電車内で声を上げたりするが、迷惑行為などしない」と駅員に事情を説明したという。

2 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:19:49.44 ID:eUf/3RBp0
駅のホームで駅員の物真似してるのも撮り鉄の一種?
4 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:20:20.41 ID:U8s8ZioD0
親が一人にさせなければいい
5 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:20:28.71 ID:xiezRzGH0
嫌なら車使えよ
6 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:20:54.47 ID:CFcVeNwu0
理由が分かったとしてもなぁ
7 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:20:55.10 ID:9OSXXkdV0
車内で大声あげるのは迷惑行為では
8 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:21:45.90 ID:Y+AVw++d0
迷惑行為してんじゃんw
9 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:21:50.21 ID:xiezRzGH0
てか池沼じゃなかったら逆に怖いわ
10 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:22:07.63 ID:yZFcQrvd0
寄席、落語家だったか
11 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:22:38.95 ID:gVXr55Ik0
>その数日後、今度は障害のある男性の家族が姫路駅を訪れた。「知的障害があって電車内で声を上げたりするが、迷惑行為などしない」と駅員に事情を説明したという。

まずごめんなさいじゃないの?

12 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:23:08.26 ID:jBo74S/T0
> その数日後、今度は障害のある男性の家族が姫路駅を訪れた。「知的障害があって電車内で声を上げたりするが、迷惑行為などしない」と駅員に事情を説明したという。

それが迷惑行為や。

13 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:23:09.15 ID:kR+A6QE30
路線バスで通勤してたときに池沼がバスの値上げはんたーい!って
ずっと奇声あげてたわ
俺も反対だったからもっとやれ!と思いながらイヤホンの音量をあげてた
14 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:23:16.03 ID:Kh3Hre/n0
昔家の前で名鉄ホーン鳴らしながら走る
自転車の少年いたけど近所で有名だったわw
15 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:23:30.27 ID:YB+F3FW70
駅や線路付近で写真を取ってるお兄さんもそうだろ
16 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:23:46.83 ID:iWYBOwy+0
金八の車掌はまともだったね。
17 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:24:01.49 ID:pbThbzTS0
人が集まるところには色んな人がいる
18 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:24:15.79 ID:FcVEDY550
恐ろしいからこの電車乗らないわ
19 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:24:28.85 ID:BaS3qhtf0
5chで誰も読まないコピペを繰り返してるのもそう言う類だしな
37 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:32:20.86 ID:0jS3b//k0
>>19
納豆とかco-labとか延々立て続けてるやつも
20 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:24:29.99 ID:8pjWWqd+0
優性遺伝法は復活させるべきだよな
21 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:25:36.11 ID:7RmYeh/e0
撮り鉄:電車が大好きなお友達です
22 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:25:52.36 ID:pdNNMWr00
迷惑てはあるか
23 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:26:46.63 ID:A31N5HxY0
親が親なら子も子だな
24 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:26:53.35 ID:CrAQqfgk0
西武新宿線ででかい荷物ぶら下げて車両の端から端まで延々と歩いていくおっさんがいたな
25 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:27:07.66 ID:Ox5eRTem0
昔の知的障碍者は赤ちゃんの時56すか一生家に閉じ込めてたからな
健常者が生きる上でどちらがいいのか難しい
33 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:31:15.16 ID:UmZgX9DT0
>>25
最低限のルールとマナーが守れん奴は外に出してはいけない
権利を主張するなら決め事を守るという等価交換
26 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:27:18.12 ID:7JLDJo4x0
電車内で奇声だす段階で充分迷惑行為
28 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:28:15.26 ID:DSIMLKHn0
性の悦びおじさんも迷惑は迷惑だけど殺さなきゃいけない程じゃないわな
31 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:31:02.67 ID:9H0Qk3+E0
>>28
性の喜びおじさんは知的障碍者では無く、ただの酔っ払いだったらしいね

ネットで人気になってから何かのバラエティ番組に本人が出演してたけど、酒を飲むとペラペラと喋り出す癖があるらしい

29 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:28:52.93 ID:BV2e/Vk20
知的障碍者専用車両とかあかんのか?
30 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:30:56.35 ID:LFx0+0Bx0
どうやったら寄声って一発変換出来る?
32 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:31:06.05 ID:BJrTBEnA0
中川家の車掌はオモロイ
34 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:32:05.63 ID:B23dV9Cj0
>>1
なんだ撮り鉄の事か
35 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:32:11.19 ID:c+O28Kf10
知的障碍者を外に出すなよボケ!
36 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:32:16.20 ID:wMhvrZpX0
違うステージならトラブルにならないはずだ
38 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:32:21.46 ID:UCr4RXjV0
耳ふさぐのが一般的だなよく見る
39 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:32:21.89 ID:WZPFCB0f0
俺みたいなおっさんとかなら「理解」もできるけど、女性や子供とかは流石に怖いと思うやろ
そちらへの配慮もなにかしら必要ではありそうな
41 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:33:22.71 ID:ODJQR6ws0
>>39
理解だとご自分では思ってるの?
40 : 2023/01/30(月) 12:33:11.17 ID:8LX0XKnK0
>「知的障害があって電車内で声を上げたりするが、迷惑行為などしない」と駅員に事情を説明したという。

迷惑の認識がこれではな・・
ガンガン当たりながらうろつくのなんか普通だろ
俺は平気だけど小さい子や足腰の弱った人は大変な迷惑だと思うぞ

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